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March 28, 2007

Yahoo Megabounce for Email-Based Readers of This Site

This is one of those Dilbert situations: if you read Wi-Fi Networking News via email and you're a Yahoo subscriber anywhere in the world, we have a problem: Okay, so I am aware that I can't notify you very easily that there's a problem when you receive these notes via email. But I just discovered via massive bounces from all Yahoo subscribers to the email version of Wi-Fi Networking News--the daily posts sent individually or as a collected digest each night--that Yahoo is using silent rejection on my email.

(Update: I was contacted by Yahoo, and they said they've tweaked their settings for my email server. Thanks!)

Despite using double opt-in methods of subscription and having received no complaints that I'm aware of from people trying to unsubscribe in the years of running the email distribution list for this site, Yahoo "deferred" every message sent to my double opted-in subscribers, did this for several days, and now has bounced all these messages.

As a matter of good Internet policy, all these subscribers accounts are now in suspension on my site to avoid any concern of sending mail after a mail server has said that the delivery has entirely failed.

Yahoo, like most large Internet companies, has little useful information about how to contact them when this kind of problem happens. If you have ideas (or work with or for Yahoo), let me or them know. In the meantime, I feel like a little part of my world has just disappeared!

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You're not alone. Sending email to yahoomail accounts is increasingly difficult. Random "message deferred" messages. Random bounces. arbitrary changes in maximum bcc or batched email settings.

They say it's because they're trying to keep down spam and you should use domainkeys (an perhaps spf). In reality I think I'm going to just stop accepting yahoomail addresses and ostracise them.

Meanwhile I'm marked as a spammer on one yahoogroups mailing list despite running several others and seeing nothing on my account and no way for either me or the list owner to clear my name.

Hey, Ho. Yahoo sucks. Ignore them.

ps. Typekey signin failing

Thanks for that bit of information. I usually just come to your website and read. To add to your Yahoo email observations - AT&T (SWBell) uses Yahoo email services for their AT&T Internet aDSL subscribers. A week ago, I noticed my OutLook incoming email dropped dramatically. I tried sending myself some test email... and it just was not get back to me. I called AT&T Internet Services and started to track down this non delivery issue. That is when I learned that AT&T did not operate their own email servers - they were outsourcing that service to Yahoo Mail. Yahoo had put a filter on my account to dump ALL mail to "JUNK" folder. I found I had to ADD my email address and several other email address to their Yahoo address book in order for it to forward through to my local machine Outlook client software.

Thanks bringing your "bounce" issue to my attention.. seems I am not alone.

By the way, I do enjoy reading your very informative website.

Dave still at 360Texas.com Fort Worth, Texas

Yahoo! mail is having some sort of outage. I have not been receiving mail in my inbox for two days. Found others on Yahoo's answers forum (http://in.answers.yahoo.com/dir/;_ylt=Ag8LcpRCemx0FoUN0o.dAP7UURh.?link=list&sid=396546161)
reporting similar problems.

Apparently, Yahoo has been having a bit of trouble lately. Check this out :

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38579

If you had just set up a yahoo group like any rational human being, you would have gotten your message out, something to the effect of 50 x per post. Good luck with that.

P.S. I believe this has something to do with Yahoo offering unlimited storage on their email accounts. Perhaps they did not understand that, given the temptation, people would actually start uploading gigabytes of data to their yahoo accounts, just to test yahoo's claims.